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  • 1.  Opinions on my new policy about generative AI that's now on my website

    Posted 24 days ago
    Hi, good folks.

    I have finally added my policy on generative AI to my website. It's the first paragraph under the "Terms of Service" head here: https://www.kokedit.com/admin_fees.php.
     
    And I am now directing authors, on my home page, to go read the page that has my policy statement. The direction is in bold type fairly near the bottom of the page: https://www.kokedit.com/index.php.
     
    Whadda ya think?


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    Katharine (Kathy) O'Moore-Klopf, ELS
    Consulting medical editor
    KOK Edit
    https://www.kokedit.com
    East Setauket, NY USA
    1-631-997-8191
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  • 2.  RE: Opinions on my new policy about generative AI that's now on my website

    Posted 23 days ago

    It looks pretty good to me! Since it's fairly short, you might consider adding it to your homepage above where you suggest reading the terms of service. People are lazy and may not click. 



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    JeanetteSmith
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  • 3.  RE: Opinions on my new policy about generative AI that's now on my website

    Posted 23 days ago

    Thanks for that idea, Jeanette.



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    Katharine (Kathy) O'Moore-Klopf, ELS
    Consulting medical editor
    KOK Edit
    https://www.kokedit.com
    East Setauket, NY USA
    1-631-997-8191
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  • 4.  RE: Opinions on my new policy about generative AI that's now on my website

    Posted 23 days ago

    Playing devil's advocate here...

    The sentence in bold does not "mean" what the following sentence says it means. It just means that you don't use GenAI when editing. My recommendation is to reword the first sentence and ADD to it. Because what you "mean" is that you don't use GenAI when editing, but you also won't edit anything created by GenAI (as implied by the second sentence).

    There will always be someone out there who is an absolute pain-in-the-bum who will get pedantic about what sentences actually say, taking them on surface value. Therefore, we need to ensure that the surface says exactly what we mean without any extrapolation.

    Another thing to play devil's advocate about: At any point during your negotiations with your prospective clients, do you mention what programs you use to assist you with editing? If you don't, then you should. And it might be worth including that information in your T&Cs too. Basically, make it clear what programs you are using, proving that you aren't using GenAI.

    For example, I use ProWritingAid as part of my process, which is AI-powered, BUT I don't use the GenAI components of the program at all. (My license doesn't include that functionality, and I refuse to upgrade to the GenAI stuff.)

    Within my T&Cs, I have this as two separate clauses:

    1. The editor has elected to not work with AI-generated works. Please respect this. If your work has been AI-generated, then please contact another editor.
      • Any attempt to fool the editor regarding the AI nature of your writing will not be looked upon favorably and could result in the immediate termination of your contract and the forfeit of all fees paid.
      • The editor does make a distinction between AI-generated and AI-assisted. AI-assisted manuscripts will be considered.
      • If you are unsure if your story qualifies as AI-assisted, please contact the editor at [redacted email] for more guidance.
    2. The editor does not use ChatGPT or any other AI tool to generate reports or to analyze client manuscripts. Everything is by hand using pen and paper and spreadsheets that have been developed by the editor. All reports and comments are personalized to the writer and are direct from the human editor that you are working with.
      • The editor uses ProWritingAid (a program similar to Grammarly) and the built-in spellchecker with MS Office. Neither tool uses ChatGPT or anything like it.


    It might also be worth mentioning that you can't guarantee that a client's work hasn't been uploaded into the training pool for GenAI. While you take all precautions necessary, it is possible that just because files were sent via email, they could have been scraped at that point. Or they could have been scraped at the client's end, before it even reached your hands. While you won't deliberately add the work to the training pool, you just can't guarantee that it won't be added.

    The clause that I have about the training pool issue in my T&Cs is as follows:

    • Due to the AI-training clauses in Google, Microsoft, and other common systems used by writers, the editor is no longer able to guarantee that client manuscripts will not be added to the AI-training pool. While manuscripts will not be intentionally added by the editor, it is possible that system settings allow external systems to access the files for AI-training purposes anyway. It is frustrating, but guarantees can no longer be made.

    (And thank you for reminding me that I need to update my main AI policy, as the legal definition about what is AI-assisted has become more defined.)



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    Judy L Mohr
    Writer & Story Coach
    https://judylmohr.com
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  • 5.  RE: Opinions on my new policy about generative AI that's now on my website

    Posted 23 days ago

    Judy, I would update one of your clauses. ProWritingAid does have generative AI tools, and that license is from ChatGPT. The program very much uses generative AI. But they do have the type of license that doesn't send data back to OpenAI. ProWritingAid has been using AI for a few years now. I did a presentation for them in 2024 about their usage. I was able to interview Chris Banks about it.



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    JeanetteSmith
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  • 6.  RE: Opinions on my new policy about generative AI that's now on my website

    Posted 23 days ago

    Hi Jeanette,

    Yeah, I noticed that my clause about ProWritingAid not having any GenAI was out of date as I was copying the clause to share it with the group. I've added it to my list of things to do: update both T&Cs and AI policy.

    I need to stress in my policies that while ProWritingAid is AI-powered, I don't use the GenAI features. But this is also why I need to update my policies to reflect the changes to the legal definition of AI-assisted, because you can't get away from AI these days. It's everywhere.



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    Judy L Mohr
    Writer & Story Coach
    https://judylmohr.com
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  • 7.  RE: Opinions on my new policy about generative AI that's now on my website

    Posted 23 days ago
    Edited by Judy L Mohr 23 days ago

    And the clauses on my T&Cs has been updated. The AI related clauses now read as such:

    • The editor has elected to not work with AI-generated works. Please respect this. If your work has been AI-generated, then please contact another editor.
      • Any attempt to fool the editor regarding the AI nature of your writing will not be looked upon favorably and could result in the immediate termination of your contract and the forfeit of all fees paid.
      • The editor does make a distinction between AI-generated and AI-assisted. AI-assisted manuscripts will be considered.
      • As of June 28, 2026, AI-assisted works was taken to mean anything that was substantively human written. If a writer used AI-generative technology to aid in research, prompt generation, or plot outlining, but the words on the page were written by the human, then the work is human-generated. If a writer used AI to assist with grammar and spell checks (and minor copyediting tasks), but the original drafts were written by the human, then the work is human-generated. If a writer took an AI-generated passage and substantively reworked that passage (as the human), then it is AI-assisted.
      • If you are unsure if your story qualifies as AI-assisted, please contact the editor at storycoach@judylmohr.com for more guidance.
    • The editor does not use ChatGPT or any other AI tool to generate reports or to analyze client manuscripts. Everything is by hand using pen and paper and spreadsheets that have been developed by the editor. All reports and comments are personalized to the writer and are direct from the human editor that you are working with.
      • The editor uses ProWritingAid (a program similar to Grammarly) and the built-in spellchecker with MS Office, but does not use the AI-generative tools associated with either program.
      • For more information about the editor's usage of AI, please refer to the editor's AI policy.
    • Disclaimer: Due to the AI-training clauses in Google, Microsoft, and other common systems used by writers, the editor is no longer able to guarantee that client manuscripts will not be added to the AI-training pool. While manuscripts will not be intentionally added by the editor, it is possible that system settings allow external systems to access the files for AI-training purposes anyway. It is frustrating, but guarantees can no longer be made.

    It was a good exercise for me to update my T&Cs anyway, because I also found payment clauses that were out of date. (I've recently changed how I do invoicing, moving to an eInvoicing system, which has provided payment via credit card as an option.)



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    Judy L Mohr
    Writer & Story Coach
    https://judylmohr.com
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  • 8.  RE: Opinions on my new policy about generative AI that's now on my website

    Posted 23 days ago

    Judy, you raised some very good points. This one got me thinking, and I will be making revisions:

    The sentence in bold does not "mean" what the following sentence says it means. It just means that you don't use GenAI when editing. My recommendation is to reword the first sentence and ADD to it. Because what you "mean" is that you don't use GenAI when editing, but you also won't edit anything created by GenAI (as implied by the second sentence).

    Thanks so much.



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    Katharine (Kathy) O'Moore-Klopf, ELS
    Consulting medical editor
    KOK Edit
    https://www.kokedit.com
    editor@kokedit.com
    East Setauket, NY USA
    phone: 1-631-997-8191
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  • 9.  RE: Opinions on my new policy about generative AI that's now on my website

    Posted 22 days ago

    Judy wrote "the sentence in bold does not "mean" what the following sentence says it means. It just means that you don't use GenAI when editing. My recommendation is to reword the first sentence and ADD to it. Because what you "mean" is that you don't use GenAI when editing, but you also won't edit anything created by GenAI (as implied by the second sentence)."
    It was unclear to me also whether Katharine will accept writing that has been LLM-assisted.



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    Ariela Marks
    Academic copyeditor and line editor
    Haifa, Israel
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  • 10.  RE: Opinions on my new policy about generative AI that's now on my website

    Posted 21 days ago
    Edited by Nicholas Pappas 21 days ago

    Hi Kathy,

    I'm not sure if you've already incorporated suggestions from the other posters in this thread, but just wanted to provide my two cents as it reads currently.  I think it does a great job job in terms of being plainly written/using plain language, and I think it serves the existing terms you have by prefacing everything else instead of adding it at the end or somewhere in the middle.

    I'm still thinking about how or what to explicilty incorporate into my own terms/policies so yours also gives me some good ideas.

    I'll also echo what others have suggested that it would also be good to consistently differentiate between generative LLM-based AI and "traditional" (or "predictive") algorithmic tools, which can include Word-based macros, but if you don't utilize either of them, the distinction probably doesn't matter as much.



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    Coordinator, AI Affinity Group

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